welding axle tubes to housing miller welding discussion
Apr 15, 2014 · I was going to have a welding shop or a frame and alignment shop perform the welding. I plan on having them weld with the rear end still in the car with the car lifted and the axles hanging down but also supported. I have also heard using high nickel rod so 7018 sounds perfect. Thanks for all your input and I will checkout the offroad forums.
Aug 25, 2010 · So before you worry about trying to weld iron, do a test or 2 I think you will find the housing to be steel. Of the 3 or 4 housings I have seen leak around the tubes all were due to the tubes spinning or flexing in the housing causing the axle to be bent. How to weld axle tubes on GM 8.5" 10-bolt Page 3 Nov 04, 2011 · Discussion in 'Transmission & Driveline Topics' started by Kevin Callahan, The 8.8 Mustang rear end has about half of the power transmissed into the axle tubes and the other half transmissed into the eyes cast into the top of the center casting. Welding the axle tubes on this type of rear end is usually not needed. A Camaro rear end has 100
May 31, 2014 · Sorry but I reaaaaly don't want to have to take the whole housing out and trust somebody else to weld it. Or could you cut notches into housing and weld mild steel block to tube in the notch. Maybe like 1/2 by 1/2" in three or four spots. Kinda like a key in a crank. Let it come out on tube to get a better weld. Is it possible to weld an axle? - Welding Tips and TricksSep 26, 2013 · So confusion over hopefully - agreed though welding the drive shafts is not usually practical except in emergency situations - I have done it successfully but would not on an ice cream van as they are almost always running at 1.5 times their allowable gross weight - the outer casing / axle tubes however are fine - they have bits welded all over
Apr 03, 2014 · I just tried to weld my 14 bolt axle tubes to the housing. So cast steel to mild steel. I pre-heated dephuc out of it (650 degrees plus) and when I went to weld it with my mig welder I did about 1/3 of the axle and when I took my helmet off it was already cracked down the center. Welding 10 bolt axle tubes? - The Michigan FBody AssociationI noticed in the summit catalog they have a stud girdle brace that you can purchase that bolts to there girdle and axle tubes. They didn't have a pic of it. If I had to guess the sway bar doesn't fit behind it? Anyone know of a shop where I might find someone capable of welding the tubes? My last question is using a set of used 4.10 gears.
Jan 16, 2009 · I need to weld my 14B FF axle tubes to the center section before they spin, but I'm not sure what welding process to use. I read a thread on here that said to use Econocast 99 or 55 stick to weld to a dana center section, but dana center sections Welding Axle Tubes to Housing - Miller Welding Discussion For now my axle tubes are just tack welded at 3 points around the tube, with a 175 mig, nothing special, i made my own jig to check the straigtness, welding did not change anything. When I put on 9" axle ends I will do full welding of the tubes to the center section. Its a ford 8.8
Feb 26, 2012 · I see that when some of y'all beef up an AMC 20, you discuss welding the axle tubes to the center section and reinforcing the leaf spring mounts. I have another rear completely apart (68-69 AMX) and am thinking about going that route. Has a 3.54 twin grip but might put a Detroit Locker and Moser axles in it. Welding Axle Tubes/Reinforce Spring Mounts AMC 20 - The Feb 28, 2012 · Welding Axle Tubes/Reinforce Spring Mounts AMC 20:Post Reply :Page < 1 2 3 > Author:Message Topic Search Topic Options. Post Reply. Create New Topic. Printable Version. Translate Topic. 390spirit . Members Profile. Send Private Message. Find Members Posts. Add to Buddy List. AMC Addicted
Feb 28, 2012 · Welding Axle Tubes/Reinforce Spring Mounts AMC 20:Post Reply :Page < 1 2 3 > Author:Message Topic Search Topic Options. Post Reply. Create New Topic. Printable Version. Translate Topic. 390spirit . Members Profile. Send Private Message. Find Members Posts. Add to Buddy List. AMC Addicted Welding Dana 44 Cast Steel Housing - 4-Wheel & Off-Road Nov 01, 2009 · We used a Dana 44 axle as an example on how to fully weld axle tubes to a cast steel axle housing all inside 4-Wheel & Off-Road Magazine. Close Ad. Welding Dana 44 Cast Steel Housing
Nov 01, 2009 · We used a Dana 44 axle as an example on how to fully weld axle tubes to a cast steel axle housing all inside 4-Wheel & Off-Road Magazine. Close Ad. Welding Dana 44 Cast Steel Housing Welding Spring Perches on axle housing - Off-Road Forums Mar 26, 2007 · Remember - welding is not dribbling filler on a joint. Welding is getting BOTH surfaces hot enough so the metal FLOWS and merges together. BOTH surfaces have to be heated above the melting point to do that. The thicker the material, the faster heat is carried away from the joint. That's one reason why aluminum is hard to weld.
Jan 13, 2000 · Jeep-Short Wheelbase All discussion of short wheelbase Jeeps:CJ, TJ, YJ and JK: I am getting ready to strengthen my AMC20 rear end and was wondering everyones thoughts on welding the axle tubes to the housing to prevent them from spinning out. I just got a spare housing and i am going to prep it for the one piece axle swap. Welding The Tubes Of An AMC20 - Off-Road Forums Jan 13, 2000 · Jeep-Short Wheelbase All discussion of short wheelbase Jeeps:CJ, TJ, YJ and JK: I am getting ready to strengthen my AMC20 rear end and was wondering everyones thoughts on welding the axle tubes to the housing to prevent them from spinning out. I just got a spare housing and i am going to prep it for the one piece axle swap.
Jun 17, 2003 · You guys are right - you do not want to attempt a structural weld (which is what it would be) between cast or nodular iron (depending on what axle it is) of the diff housing and the mild steel of the axle tubes. I Don't think there's any truth to the "leaving it free to move" story though - it's pretty damned tight inteference fit. Welding inner C's Pirate 4x4Nov 28, 2011 · When welding an aftermarket inner C to an axle tube is it customary for the tube to press all the way through the C and be welded at the end of the tube on the inside AND on the outside at the seam or just the outside? Just asking out of curiosity because I've never done one. J. J.
Oct 24, 2012 · When the brackets are done, you can check for distortion of the axle tubes with a straightedge on the side opposite the brackets. If there is more than a slight amount, it can be counteracted by heat-shrinking with a torch and a wet rag, or even by just welding a couple stringers opposite the brackets. Good luck. Post a pic or two! Steve S. Welding on brackets to axle - Welding Tips and TricksOct 24, 2012 · When the brackets are done, you can check for distortion of the axle tubes with a straightedge on the side opposite the brackets. If there is more than a slight amount, it can be counteracted by heat-shrinking with a torch and a wet rag, or even by just welding a couple stringers opposite the brackets. Good luck. Post a pic or two! Steve S.
Jul 13, 2012 · Welding to the center section was done with a TIG, everything else was done with a MIG. I used regular ER70S-6 filler rod along with pre/post heat when welding the center section. I didn't have anything big to bury the axle in for a sand bath, so I made a Welding rear end tubes to differential housing Nov 11, 2009 · Welding rear end tubes to differential housing Discussion in ' The housing & tubes need to be pre & post heated as well as cleaned to get the welds right. The center is made of cast iron and the axle tubes are made of steel. There is only one material that will weld these two metals together, and that is nickel.
If you're welding hot enough to go through the axle tube (to "strike oil") then your going way nuts with this and doing things flat out wrong. You don't need even 1/4" penetration on the tube to secure a 1/4 bracket with 100% strength (basically saying the weld will not break first), much less 3/8". Welding suspension brackets to axles - Weld Talk Most brackets are 3/16-1/4 (or maybe a nudge bigger depending). Spring perches are often made from a piece of 2.5" square tube with 1/4" wall and one side cut off with radius for tube. If you're welding hot enough to go through the axle tube (to "strike oil") then your
Aug 31, 2009 · First post - What is the best way to weld the axle tubes to the housing on the Ford 8.8 (1997 model) :confused:? Is the housing cast iron or cast steel? Is preheat required and if yes, how much? Should the internals (e.g., bearings) be removed prior to welding? Stick weld with nickel rod or advice on welding brackets to rear end housing The H.A.M.B.Mar 11, 2008 · I've had good luck with Hackerbill's method, running a bead around the side of the housing opposite the welded bracket then grinding it off. To check straightness, I've clamped a straight 3 foot length of square tube to each axle flange, flange in the middle of the tube, then measured between the ends. Rotate square tube 90 degrees, measure again.
Feb 21, 2006 · to straighten or not? axle housing welding Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by canigo, Feb 18, 2006. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Joined:Jul 8, 2005 Posts:57. Profile Page But I can't see how welding a 1/4" plate 90deg from an axle tube, on that tube welding automotive axle housingsDec 06, 2001 · We are welding the axle tubes to the cast center section of the housing. These tubes are pressed into the center at the factory and plug welded in 3 places. For drag racing usage we need to weld the tubes to the center to keep them from shearing the plug welds and spinning in the casting.
Cant ever remember welding an axle housing, probably have, just dont remember. I would tack it in 4 locations, 12, 6, 9, and 3 oclock Feather both sides of each tack. Then weld from 12 to 3 then 9 to 6 oclock, feather each start and stop, then fill in the gaps. If you stop, chances are the weld will pull everything out of alignment. welding axle housings - MJ Tech:Modification and Repairs Apr 18, 2019 · Perches and shock mounts are typically welded to the axle tubes, not to the differential housing. It's extremely unlikely that you would (or could) warp a tube by welding something to it. The factory spring perches certainly look like they were welded with
Feb 16, 2010 · I have always read that the proper way to weld tubes is to remove the diff, and pass a straight steel bar through the both axle tubes to hold them in place. A few months ago, I discovered a driver side axle tube leak where the axle tube enters the housing. I took a gamble and decided to weld it up with the rear in the car. welding axle tubes.preventing damage [Archive] - Pro The best way would be to grind the paint and prep the axle tubes for welding. Tack the brackets in place with the housing in the car. Remove the rear end from the vehicle, remove the axles from the housing, then finish welding. Check the axle tubes for warpage (make sure the housing ends are parallel). Straighten as necessary. Re-install.
Aug 22, 2013 · Wait a minute am I to understand you want to weld the axle tubes to the housing or weld some thing to the axle tubes? You might get away with welding a bracket to the axle tube but not spring perches or welding the tubes to the center section with a 110 welder. It might stick but it wont hold. Welding Axle Tubes to Housing - Miller Welding Discussion Welding Axle Tubes to Housing 04-20-2005, 10:24 PM. Looking to fully weld axles tubes to a cast center section to strengthen a rearend for a drag car. I spoke with someone and they asked if it was cast iron or cast steel. I have no idea what it is. 2018 Miller Electric Mfg. LLC.
Dont run a solid bead around what you are welding-too much heat. Instead do beads 1 in long at the most and let them cool briefly.especially as you weld the pumpkin to the tubes. don't be in a hurry.Perches and shock mounts are typically welded to the axle tubes, not to the differential housing. It's extremely unlikely that you would (or could)As others have said..just spread the love around. I had no problem welding mine. With perches and brackets.just weld in one area then moveIf you are just swapping in the 8.8 you will be fine welding the perches on without worry. Stitch the welds like stated above and you'll have no isThanks for the encouraging info. Helps relieve the thought of warped housing. As it turns out there may be a d44 axel available instead from a 79 w79 (actually all 74-91 full size) 4 Dr wagons are within an inch of width wheel mounting surface to WMS at both ends. The rims are a different offThe bolt pattern won't be right But as Carnuck was getting at, it will be within an inch of the width of your existing axle; actually it will beA 79 Wagoneer was a full-size. The hubs will be 6-bolt. welding axle tubes to housing - American Welding Society
Aug 26, 2010 · From the factory the axle tubes are pressed into the differential housing, then they are plug welded through holes in the casting (usually only 2 per side). The problem is that they are not really plug welds because they do not really bond to the cast housing, they are only bonded to the steel axle tubes because they are only welded with mild steel MIG (probably ER70S) So what that does is